'A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms' showrunner on the Season 1 finale, and what's next for Dunk and Egg

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This communicative contains spoilers for Episode 6 of “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.

Ira Parker intended the precise past country of “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms,” Episode 6 (titled “The Morrow”), to beryllium conscionable “something that was a small funny.”

Sunday’s play finale of the HBO phantasy bid ends with everyone, including the royal Targaryen entourage, departing Ashford aft the decision of the proceedings and tournament. Just earlier the credits roll, Prince Maekar, who notices his young lad Aegon is erstwhile again missing, frantically shouts, “Where the f— is he?”

“To beryllium honest, the very, very, precise extremity was astir conscionable meant arsenic a joke,” the showrunner says during a caller video call. “But I deliberation radical — some successful my penning campy and successful the HBO campy and astir apt successful the satellite — took that rather literally. So I’ve possibly had to woody with it a small spot much successful Season 2 than I was readying to.”

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“A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms” showrunner Ira Parker, right, with manager Sarah Adina Smith connected the acceptable of the phantasy series.

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Starring Peter Claffey arsenic Ser Duncan the Tall and Dexter Sol Ansell arsenic Prince Aegon Targaryen, “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms” is an adaptation of George R.R. Martin novellas acceptable successful the aforesaid satellite arsenic his “A Song of Ice and Fire” series. These “Tales of Dunk and Egg” stories instrumentality spot astir 100 years earlier the events depicted successful “Game of Thrones.”

The infinitesimal successful question could beryllium a large woody for immoderate fans of Martin’s novellas. The country is not included successful “The Hedge Knight,” the publication upon which the archetypal play of “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms” is based. Whether Egg had Maekar’s support to articulation Dunk’s travels arsenic his squire is near much unfastened ended successful the novella itself.

While the young prince said helium had his father’s blessing, “it’s not confirmed canonically” successful the book, says Parker. “We haven’t done thing egregious here, I don’t think. [And] I judge it from a quality perspective. I judge that Egg would bash that again, due to the fact that he’s already done it. We’ve seen him. He runs away. That’s benignant of his thing. And helium lies to people.”

Without sharing immoderate details, Parker teases the concern volition beryllium addressed again adjacent season.

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Dunk (Peter Claffey) successful the play finale of “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.”

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The showrunner, who co-created the bid with Martin, admits that approaching “The Morrow” was “daunting.” Set successful the aftermath of Trial of Seven, Episode 6 progressive “a batch of creation” to agelong retired the remaining events from the root material.

“Very aboriginal on, each of america knew that we weren’t going to adhd immoderate story,” says Parker, who antecedently worked connected “Thrones” prequel “House of the Dragon.” “The communicative is the story. We’re going to beryllium 100% faithful to the novellas successful that respect. But wherever we could add, due to the fact that we needed astir different 50% of worldly successful bid to capable retired adjacent our six 30-minute episodes, was going to beryllium successful the characters.”

This has meant the amusement has spent much clip with the precise relatable Dunk and his precocious complaint Egg. Its supporting ensemble including Lyonel Baratheon (Daniel Ings) and Raymun Fossoway (Shaun Thomas), who springiness Dunk a helping hand, person besides been much fleshed out. This has allowed audiences to conscionable “enjoy hanging retired successful this world.”

“I wasn’t ever convinced that radical would let america to bash it,” Parker says. “Hanging retired successful Westeros. It meant a small spot of a slower start. Luckily, radical person travel on with america connected the ride. ... We truly conscionable hoped that radical would beryllium charmed capable by these characters and the communicative and privation bully things for Dunk.”

Like “The Hedge Knight,” the occurrence concludes by teasing Dunk and Egg’s travel to Dorne, but Parker confirms Season 2 volition beryllium an adaptation of the 2nd novella, “The Sworn Sword,” which takes spot a twelvemonth and a fractional oregon truthful aft the events of “The Hedge Knight” and sees the brace successful a portion of the Reach.

“I emotion ‘The Sworn Sword’ due to the fact that I deliberation it’s precise funny, and I deliberation the benignant of ‘will they / won’t they’ betwixt Dunk and Lady Rohanne is conscionable bully territory for us,” helium says. (Parker said they considered mounting Season 2 successful Dorne but that it would person taken excessively overmuch clip to soma retired the communicative adjacent with Martin’s notes.)

In a speech edited for clarity and length, Parker discussed his collaboration with Martin, each facet of the amusement being a reflection of Dunk, and “A Knight of the Nine Kingdoms.”

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Lyonel Baratheon (Daniel Ings), left, and Dunk (Peter Claffey) portion a maester (Paul Murphy) looks implicit the injured hedge knight.

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The amusement is called “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms,” but successful the finale, Egg points retired to Dunk that determination are really 9 kingdoms successful Westeros. Can you explicate that infinitesimal and really showing the alternate rubric card?

The concern is truthful overwrought successful this episode. With Baelor’s decease and with everything that Egg has gone through, which we spot him struggling with. Where Dunk’s caput is at, going disconnected unsocial again. The information that they some get unneurotic is fantastic and uplifting, but we benignant of had to reassure the assemblage — that adjacent though Egg is present officially a prince and Dunk knows that, and this calamity has travel to walk betwixt the 2 of them, the halfway of that relationship, what we learned to emotion astir their narration earlier each of this happened, really inactive remains. So that was the value of having a benignant of speech similar that. It didn’t needfully person to beryllium the speech astir the kingdoms, but conscionable Egg, successful his way, making definite that Dunk ne'er feels similar helium knows anything. And it is simply a wink to the assemblage and to the fans [who person raised questions astir the number], but we’re not changing the sanction of the show.

You notation Egg’s struggles and we bash spot conscionable however overmuch choler helium has toward his member Aerion successful this episode. What were your thoughts connected depicting that onscreen and what it says astir Egg?

I talked to George a small spot astir Egg and his motivations aboriginal on, and George said kids consciousness disappointment much acutely and that that is simply a immense portion of it. It’s not to beryllium discounted. I don’t privation to spell retired determination and accidental it’s due to the fact that of Targaryen trauma and everything he’s been through. He’s a boy. Things were happening that were precise bully for him that helium was precise blessed about. Then it was each taken distant and helium blames people. He feels similar he’s caused each these problems [for others], and erstwhile that doesn’t person a spot to land, that’s what turns into anger. It conscionable benignant of brews up wrong of you.

He sees Aerion arsenic the existent origin of each this. At that young age, helium doesn’t cognize however to undirect that. He has immoderate benignant of a begetter determination successful Maekar. But the information that helium ends up with Dunk, that’s the full communicative of Episode 6. Is Dunk, aft each this, going to determine to prevention this kid who is conscionable going to beryllium thrown to the wolves otherwise? Who’s not going to get what helium needs to nonstop his vexation and his disappointments to bully vigor targets? Kids who person that extremity up, generally, successful amended situations than kids who don’t.

It’s precise important for maine to amusement the value of having a mentor successful your life. We’re evidently precise thematically astir fathers and sons, knights and squires, and, to a definite grade brothers. But it is, astatine the halfway of it, what it is to person a teacher. Dunk had that successful Ser Arlan. Dunk surely has nary work to bash thing for this household astatine this constituent and helium does it ... due to the fact that it was done for him. So he’s paying it forward, being a payment to the idiosyncratic adjacent to him.

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Dunk (Peter Claffey) is acceptable for his adjacent journey.

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That’s 1 happening that sets Dunk apart. He’s 1 of the fewer radical we spot successful this satellite who believes successful doing bully and that that’s what he’s expected to beryllium doing.

There’s an summation to that, which is that helium wants truthful severely to bash bully and bash close by his mentor who taught him what a knight was expected to be. But determination is this feeling that the satellite isn’t going to fto you bash that. We spot idiosyncratic similar Ned Stark, who’s precise honorable, [but] astir apt suffered yet from his naivety — his content successful others. Dunk, I think, has 1 other level. Or possibly I’m conscionable projecting that onto him due to the fact that sometimes I deliberation astir however to support myself successful this satellite wherever not everybody ever has the champion intentions. You truthful severely privation to bash good, but past there’s besides the world of that, and a large portion of Dunk’s aboriginal travel successful this satellite is learning those lessons.

Maybe that’s conscionable due to the fact that my caput is besides stuck successful Book Two, wherever I deliberation that is brought adjacent much to the forefront. But he’s ne'er going to change. He’s ever going to beryllium hopeful.

You did a Reddit AMA precocious and you responded to idiosyncratic who had asked astir the show’s accumulation fund that everything successful this amusement was a reflection of the pb character. Can you explicate what you meant by that?

It’s precise chilling astatine the opening to recognize that you person 1 [point of view] character, but past erstwhile you recognize however galore facets spell into making up that 1 idiosyncratic — from costumes, cinematography, music, everything — you recognize you really are telling a batch of antithetic stories, conscionable astir 1 idiosyncratic and however they subordinate to the world. You person to marque definite that that is 1 hellhole of an immersive experience, due to the fact that it’s not similar you could conscionable person an assemblage subordinate tune retired if they don’t similar the Dunk communicative this week. We had to marque you consciousness successful each azygous occurrence that you are successful that situation, that you tin someway subordinate to Dunk and what he’s going through. This is due to the fact that it’s astir to get adjacent tougher for him. Hopefully the radical who travel to america for the light, fun, enjoyable instrumentality connected Westeros volition instrumentality with america done immoderate of the harder, trickier, grimmer moments. Because this is George R.R. Martin’s world, and it gets dangerous.

But it was really a precise nice, earthy mode for america to differentiate ourselves [from the different shows]. We’re not a prequel. These are novellas that person existed for 30 years. It’s much organic. Rather than being truthful expansive and epic successful scale, it’s inactive tiny and elemental and hopeful. [Dunk’s] inactive fundamentally conscionable a kid. It’s 2 kids mounting retired to person a small spot of fun. There’s got to beryllium immoderate some whimsy astir it. That precise easy allowed america to find our ain voice.

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Egg (Dexter Sol Ansell) has a batch of choler for his older brother.

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How is it similar to enactment with George R.R. Martin?

He has been wonderfully collaborative. It’s been the astir fulfilling originative concern of my full life. A batch of radical tin commencement retired successful this manufacture speechmaking your worldly and telling you what they deliberation is incorrect without asking you wherefore you did thing the mode that you did it. Giving you the payment of the uncertainty and the speech jumping disconnected from there, George is precise bully astatine that. Whenever helium would telephone maine astir a caller script, we’d speech retired what’s successful my caput successful the mentation of events that led maine down this path. And past helium talks astir wherefore helium either did it different mode oregon has issues with it. It becomes a precise earthy conversation. It’s an hold of a writer’s country with a surviving legend, 1 of the top surviving writers successful the satellite today. He conscionable likes talking astir this worldly with you, and I similar talking astir it with him.

What were your earliest conversations with him astir “Dunk and Egg” like? Did you already person an thought of however you wanted to bash the amusement earlier you talked to him?

I swung beauteous wildly astatine the opening from the constituent wherever HBO sent it to maine — wherever I thought “Game of Thrones” shows are 10 episodes, an hourlong each, however could we perchance bash that with these 3 novellas — to uncovering retired what HBO’s intentions were for it, uncovering retired what George’s intentions were for it. Having conversations with George astir what helium likes, wherefore Dunk is his sole POV character. Why, for example, helium ne'er wrote immoderate Egg chapters. He has truthful galore circumstantial thoughts connected each of this that that truly helped pass what my attack was going to be.

I deliberation it was precise important for maine to spell into that archetypal meeting, erstwhile I flew to Santa Fe to conscionable him, with a mile-high preparation. I knew everything perchance successful and astir this satellite and these characters, and I had a batch of pitches, if it came to that. But I didn’t spell successful determination and pb with that. I conscionable went and I sat down and we had conversations. I asked a batch of questions and I listened a lot. And past I went backmost and I re-formed and I went disconnected and wrote a pilot. Then we were disconnected to the races.

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Raymun Fossoway (Shaun Thomas), left, was a existent person to Dunk (Peter Claffey).

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You worked connected “House of the Dragon,” which is specified a antithetic show, adjacent though it’s successful the aforesaid world. How did your clip determination impact however you wanted to attack this show?

That country was 1 of my favourite rooms that I’ve ever been in. Ryan Condal is simply a existent writer’s writer. He has truthful overmuch emotion for this world. It’s comic due to the fact that everybody thinks drama rooms are conscionable truthful comic each the time, everybody’s cracking jokes, and play rooms are truthful superior due to the fact that of the material. It’s really often the nonstop opposite. In drama, due to the fact that drama is not currency, everybody’s conscionable cracking jokes each the time. And Ryan has specified a crisp wit; we stock a precise akin consciousness of humor. I deliberation it was him who enactment maine guardant for this to HBO erstwhile they were looking for a writer for “Dunk and Egg,” and I’m precise grateful.

Our country for “Knight of the Seven Kingdoms” was precise different. We hired each play writers, conscionable radical that person antithetic sensibilities. I felt similar I was surviving my precise champion days. We had 11 days successful that writer’s country due to the fact that the writers’ onslaught unopen america down truthful quickly, but we knew that that was coming up. So we got going arsenic accelerated arsenic we perchance could and we broke arsenic overmuch arsenic we could. Then I assigned scripts the precise past day. But those 11 days successful that room, I deliberation we broke, ultimately, 20 seasons of a amusement by accident.

We were having truthful overmuch fun, we were creating it each for the archetypal season. We did it each for six episodes. As soon arsenic we got backmost from the strike, a fewer of my writers were conscionable like, “How bash you expect america to constitute 35-minute episodes with these beats to beryllium broken?” We pulled it a lot, batch backmost from what that was, but writers rooms are the happiest spot connected Earth, oregon slightest lonely spot connected Earth. It’s not ever blessed — it’s hard sometimes.

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