Spotify doubles down on video podcasts at its Hollywood studios

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On a caller weekday greeting wrong a workplace successful the bosom of Hollywood, Rachel Lindsay and Van Lathan, co-hosts of The Ringer’s “Higher Learning,” were getting acceptable to roll.

By the clip the podcasters came into the Spotify Sycamore Studios for their show, which covers each things successful Black civilization and politics, the overhead lights were set, and the cameras were precisely angled. Decorative books were propped up betwixt their seats and a large reddish “Higher Learning” logo stood down them.

As soon arsenic everyone silenced their phones, the hosts began to banter similar 2 aged friends. Lindsay complimented Lathan connected his caller foray into stand-up drama astatine the Netflix is Joke Fest astatine the Laugh Factory.

“I conscionable person to accidental ... fundamentally a prima is born,” said Lindsay, grinning. “I person to speech astir it. Now I ne'er doubted you.”


The brace helms 1 of the galore shows connected The Ringer podcast network, known for its roster of A-list personage hosts and sports and civilization commentators that precocious moved into Spotify’s newest podcasting studios.

The 11,000 square-foot abstraction connected Sycamore Avenue was designed arsenic some a location basal for The Ringer’s accumulation and a video podcasting hub for prime Spotify creators.

Since its opening earlier this year, the abstraction has welcomed much than 25 podcasters and shows, connected apical of the dozens of shows that inactive grounds astatine Spotify’s Mateo studios successful the Arts District.

The institution estimates that implicit the past 5 years it has contributed much than $10 cardinal to the podcasting industry, including payouts to creators and investments successful caller content.

Podcasts are conscionable 1 limb of Spotify’s business, arsenic the audio elephantine has implicit 100 cardinal songs and 700,000 audiobooks connected its platform. But video podcasts person go an progressively important mode for the institution to support listeners tuned successful — and paying for subscriptions amid increasing contention from Apple Music and YouTube Music. Despite a surge successful profits successful the archetypal quarter, Spotify’s stock terms has fallen 25% this twelvemonth arsenic investors interest astir a slowdown successful subscriber growth.

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay grounds   their podcast astatine  Spotify's Sycamore Studios.

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay grounds their podcast, “Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay,” astatine Spotify’s Sycamore Studios successful Hollywood connected May 7. The podcast is distributed connected Spotify done The Ringer.

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One of the main drivers down opening the Sycamore studios was to make a cardinal hub for The Ringer, a media institution Spotify acquired for $250 cardinal successful 2020.

Geoff Chow, Spotify‘s caput of podcast studios and The Ringer’s managing director, said the concern is already paying disconnected “in presumption of the productivity and the prime of the contented we’re capable to nutrient from here.”

The Ringer is 1 of the streamer’s astir fashionable assets. Spotify includes 9 Ringer shows successful its database of the apical U.S. podcasts.

“They’re pouring into this abstraction and their creators,” Lathan said, earlier signaling a caller “Higher Learning” episode. “We truly person the state to bash truthful much.”

He and Lindsay said the workplace has elevated their amusement by switching up their workflow and expanding in-person work.

Thanks successful portion to its centralized location, tucked betwixt the offices of SiriusXM and euphony and sports amusement institution Roc Nation, they accidental guests are much anxious to sojourn and grounds successful person. Lathan joked that adjacent portion walking down the street, he’ll tally into vigor personalities similar Sway Calloway, who hosts his ain palmy “Sway successful the Morning” amusement connected SiriusXM, and person them to travel up for a circuit of the space.

Sycamore has already seen impermanent appearances from Snoop Dogg connected “Game Over with Max Kellerman and Rich Paul,” Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro connected “Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay” and “Project Hail Mary” writer Andy Weir connected “House of R.”

“This thoroughfare is truthful cool,” Lindsay added. “It’s conscionable a antithetic vigor here.”

The duo archetypal started signaling astatine Spotify’s Arts District campus, which is much focused connected audio-driven programs. But arsenic the podcasting scenery evolves and video becomes a much important element, “Higher Learning” is present capable to maximize connected the caller studio’s video-first capabilities.

Chris Thomas, workplace  operator, works   successful  the power  country   connected  the podcast, "Higher Learning."

Chris Thomas, workplace operator, works successful the power country connected the podcast, “Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay.”

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Spotify besides employs a operation of full-time employees and freelancers that unit each show, including dependable engineers, lighting specialists and acceptable designers who assistance support the spot running.

The Ringer, founded by media mogul Bill Simmons, exists online arsenic a website, a podcast web and video accumulation house, anchored successful sports, popular civilization and authorities coverage. Some of its astir fashionable programs see “The Bill Simmons Podcast,” “The Rewatchables” and the inaugural Golden Globe victor “Good Hang with Amy Poehler.”

Many of the hosts overlap wrong The Ringer’s podcasting ecosystem. Just betwixt Lathan and Lindsay, they big and look arsenic regular guests connected arsenic galore arsenic 5 shows, truthful they enactment from the workplace 3 to 5 times a week. By being successful adjacent quarters together, a greater consciousness of collaboration has enveloped The Ringer’s team. Chow said determination are immoderate days erstwhile Simmons volition locomotion onto 4 shows a day, conscionable to stock his thoughts connected a topic.

“This is my imagination of what The Ringer is. We’re each present talking, we’re each existing together,” Lathan said. “We’re each popping successful and retired of antithetic rooms each the time.”

Exterior presumption    of Spotify's Sycamore Studios, the company's newest podcasting facility.

Exterior presumption of the gathering that houses Spotify’s caller Sycamore Studios. The institution takes up 1 level of the facility.

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The Ringer was archetypal founded successful 2016. At the time, Simmons had precocious been ousted from ESPN owed to a strained narration with higher-ups. Simmons had spearheaded the network’s Grantland sports blog, which focused connected taste commentary that is akin to what The Ringer does today. The Ringer soon established itself arsenic 1 of the fastest-growing autarkic podcast networks.

The marque inactive keeps its roots successful fandom — whether it’s done shot oregon “Game of Thrones,” said Chow. So, to person a abstraction that reflects the diverseness of its programming often makes signaling much fruitful, particularly during cardinal moments similar the NFL draught oregon awards season.

As The Ringer continues to grow its roots successful Hollywood, the web remains focused connected maximizing its content.

In January, The Ringer started airing prime podcasts connected Netflix to scope a wider audience. Chow said the concern is disconnected to a promising start. Each of the 5 signaling studios astatine the Sycamore tract is afloat equipped with live-streaming exertion — making the play Netflix unrecorded shows possible.

“Podcasts person go similar a taste hub and curator of things that are happening successful the world,” Chow said. “We ever privation to innovate and test. That’s thing that was breathtaking to america to deliberation astir bringing our assemblage caller contented successful antithetic places.”

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